30 September 2014

It Came From YouTube: Retro Wormhole: In The Kitchen - Hostess Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Pudding Pies

It Came From YouTube: Retro Wormhole: In The Kitchen - Hostess Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Pudding Pies

You may recall my video a while back where I ate a Hostess Fruit Pie to make sure that they were still worth eating. The best ones I ever had though? It would have to be the Turtles Pies. Filled with vanilla pudding and that trademark Hostess crust (except green), these things where amazing.

As is the standard whenever something nostalgic is brought to the surface of my mind, I took to the Google, and lo and behold, a tutorial on how to make Turtle Pies! I cannot wait to put this to use.

26 September 2014

Undiscovered Country: Drew - Soulful

At the end of Snoop's GGN episode with Seth Rogen, I heard a catchy song, so I searched the comments and found the source. He was featured on an episode of...you guessed it, Snoop's Underground Heat, so I'm guessing that's how he ended up on GGN.

Drew - Soulful

It Came From YouTube: G-Unit Visits GGN

Snoop Dogg does a little bit of everything these days. Aside from music, he has one of the best Instagram accounts out, does videos for YouTube, and DJs now. That's what 20+ years in the game does for you.

G-Unit got back together recently and just dropped an EP, so they stopped by Snoop's GGN show to chop it up. Hilarity and gems soon followed.

23 September 2014

Mark Bousquet Interviewed Me for Atomic Anxiety!


When SYU came out in March, I sent download links out to anyone I thought may be interested, and Mark Bousquet was on that list. Mark loved the album so much, that he asked if I was interested in being featured in his Atomic Interviews series on his site. After thinking on it for a long time (5 seconds), I jumped at the opportunity.
Welcome to the latest Atomic Interview. It’s the 27th installment of my interview series and I’m happy to be joined by my first musical guest, Kelen Conley/B Hyphen. You might know Kelen even if you don’t think you know Kelen, as he’s the guy who does the opening for Derrick Ferguson and Thomas Deja’s excellent and legendary podcast, Better in the Dark. Kelen’s latest release, SOON YOU’LL UNDERSTAND has been out for a few months, and it’s all sorts of fantastic. Purchasing information is available at BHYPHEN.com.

Away we go...

Mark Bousquet: Hi Kelen, thanks for joining me and for being the first musical artist to be featured in an Atomic Interview. Your album, SOON YOU’LL UNDERSTAND, has been out for a few months now. Lyrically, there’s a lot of taking stock of the past on this album, and it feels to me like the final statement on a chapter of your life. True? False? What does SYU mean to you?

Kelen Conley: What a loaded question. First off, I’m honored to be the first ever musical artist featured in an Atomic Interview. I shall now be known as the One in the Number One Spot for Musical Artist Featured in an Atomic Interview. I’m trying too hard. Anyway, SYU takes a lot of stock in the past because, as with most debut albums, you spend your whole life creating your first album. I felt no different despite my previous material from mixtapes. I felt like I had to deal with some of the things in my past to create quality music in the now. Mostly because I’ve always used my music as therapy. It was supposed to be a final statement, as I really intended this to be the last thing I ever released musically. So true in that sense, but now, 6 months removed from when I released it, I’m going to say it’s a false statement as well. SYU is, to get my nerd on right quick, essentially the moment on Namek when Goku turned Super Saiyan for the first time. SYU is my moment when all the stars aligned and I put all my energy into this one thing, and magic happened. It was truly the first time I felt like I could say I accomplished something I set out to do in my life. It’s the best thing to ever happen to me, after my daughter being born and getting married.

Mark Bousquet: “Rewind” brings me right back to my freshman year at Syracuse. What was the college experience like for you? How did it influence your growth as an artist?

Kelen Conley: College was eye opening for me. In high school, I was 20 minutes away from the school and I had no vehicle, so I had zero social life outside of school hours. When I got to college, I went nuts. Not too nuts, but nuts enough that I had to be reeled in at times. It was a lot of fun; I met my wife in college and also some of my best friends to this day. I wish I could say I experienced graduating, but I could never wrap my head around the concept of school work like I could in high school. But college is when I first started living a life of my own, and without those experiences, good or bad, I’d be a completely different artist. I used to rap about saving the world all time and how much bad was in society. I only saw things in black and white; college taught me about the grays. Oh! And it made me a lot less naïve. I was so dumb about certain things back then. Also another reason why songs like “Rewind” exist; I couldn’t read a signal to save my life. My wife will say I still can’t.

Mark Bousquet: I’m impressed with the variety of vocal stylings on SYU. “Rewind” sees you in a more relaxed, storyteller mode, and it’s followed by “Fit Jammin’,” which has a much quicker tempo. When you were making the album – either writing lyrics or selecting beats or assembling the tracks – was there a conscious decision on your part to offer a range of different approaches or was it just something that happened?

Kelen Conley: It was a blend of both. I was really worried that I had put all my best efforts towards the mixtape I put out almost a year before SYU, The Mind’s Mixtape volume 4. I was afraid I’d have this 14 track album that wouldn’t have a theme and feel thrown together. But then the right beats fell into place. 95 gave me “Independent Headspace” and I knew I could write something inspirational to it. Lip Beats sold me “World Without A Hyphen” and I knew that would be the last song on the album. I wrote “Legacy” one morning when I arrived super early at The Shoe Dept. and was supposed to be opening the shoe shipment. I had that beat for months by the time inspiration struck. And I knew as soon as I heard the beat for what would become “A Journey…” that it would be the album opener. Once those 4 tent poles were in place, the rest of the sequencing came easy.

It also helped that I trimmed 4 tracks and released them as the Live From The Dancefloor EP.

But I did make a conscious effort to make the songs different. Learning what energy goes with what instrumental is something I take pride in. I tried to visualize how the songs would go as you listen to it, almost like the settings on a stove burner:

“Journey” – high
“Bacon” – medium high
“Squares” – medium
“Rewind” – medium low
“Jammin’” – high
“Legacy” – low
“Competition” – medium high
“Winter’s” – low
“Independent” – medium high
“World” – medium low

It made sense at the time at least.

Mark Bousquet: I think “Legacy” might as well be the unofficial soundtrack to so many of us who toil away in relative creative anonymity, who know they’re putting in the work and getting better at their craft, but don’t see the kind of financial success that others do. The song conveys a powerful mix of frustration and pride and gets to the heart of why we continue to do what we do. If it’s a matter of, as you say in the song, “no record deals / no big breaks / no dope wheels / no nice house / not even a nice watch” what keeps you going?

Kelen Conley: By the time I wrote this, there wasn’t anything keeping me going. I wrote “Legacy” because I was mad that I hadn’t gotten anywhere I thought I’d be. It was a conversation with myself because I wanted to know where I was going. I didn’t want to be known as that guy who worked at The Shoe Dept. for 40 years. I didn’t want to be that one guy who used to “fill in the blank”. I listen to people all the time talk about how great this man was or how wonderful this woman was and they made their marks without being famous. I didn’t even feel like I was leaving a mark period.

What kept me going was the realization that while what audience I do have is important, I have to be happy with the music I make when it’s all said and done. When I recorded this album, I was my own biggest fan. Once I realized that I was making the music I wanted to hear and started blocking out what potential fans might want to hear, that’s when I got my motivation back. Once I rediscovered my love for making the actual music again, I was good to go.

Mark Bousquet: One sign of a great album, I think, is that my favorite song keeps changing. Currently, on SYU, it’s “Winter’s Lament (Miami’s Gone),” which is the most soulful track on the album to me and I think the most insightful. The line, “Don’t ever go anywhere warm when you live in a cold place because you’ll never get over that shit” works for me on two levels – one is the literal interpretation in how going someplace nice during the winter season can depress the hell out of you when you get back. But when you drop the line about how you were only there 3 days, it opens the track up to a deeper meaning about depression and how any temporary reprieve from the bad times can make them seem even worse when the good times fade. I feel that and I live in the high desert where winter lasts about 3 weeks. Can you discuss what went into this track as a way of us gaining some insight into your process? Lyrics first? Beats first? How much do these two halves influence one another as you work on a track?

Kelen Conley: I went to Miami in 2012 and I still feel like I just got back and I’m stepping off the plane in Pittsburgh every single day. It changed me and I barely saw any of it. I saw a lot of beautiful women and the rest of the time was drinking, WrestleMania Axxess, and WrestleMania XXVIII. But it changed me because it was the perfect everything for me. So when I came back to the ho-hum of everyday life, I just knew I wanted to write a song about Miami, but not in the typical “partying it up in M.I.A.” way.

I’ve self-diagnosed myself with seasonal depression mostly because those last few months of winter can be really rough on me, especially after my birthday in January. And the drastic climate change from Miami in April to Pittsburgh in April summarized seasonal depression well I thought. So while I talked about how amazing Miami was in some parts of the song, the overarching theme is depression and how the mundane things such as paying bills can just get to you sometimes. Especially when all you want is to be back in Miami drinking poolside.

The idea came first, and then the beat. I asked Lip Beats if he had anything with a Spanish guitar and he sold me the instrumental that would become “Winter’s”. The lyrics were easy; I wrote them in between transactions at work.

I really need to have a beat before I write anything. I used to write without one and try to make the lyrics fit later but it just feels more organic to write to the beat. The beat dictates 80% of what a song is going to be about for me, as I basically let it tell me what to write about. My mood takes up the other 20%, and that’s when you get the swerves in my music when a song doesn’t end up where you think it will. I think this process is another reason why SYU didn’t have “a song for the ladies”,  “a song for the thugs”, “a song that’s blatantly designed for crossover appeal”. If I was making music like that…I wouldn’t be making music.

With all that said, I do keep song ideas in my head and I’ll pull them out when the right instrumental shows up. But I never write a lyric until I secure that beat.

Mark Bousquet: The album’s closing track, “World Without Hyphen,” works for me as an answer to the doubt and darkness of “Legacy.” It’s creatively upbeat and positive and thankful. What’s next for you creatively? What do you want the next step to be?

Kelen Conley: I’m glad you got the distinction between the two. “Legacy” is SYU’s rock bottom and “World” is me coming out the other side.

Next creatively? I don’t really have any answer. I waited 31 years to put out this album and now I’m kind of in a “now what?” rut. I hope to start writing new music soon, Aaliyah (my daughter) willing. I think the direction will be different than SYU because SYU was essentially supposed to be me writing my own ending to my life with music. So whatever comes next will be dealing with, “Oh shit, I’m still making music.”

I want the next step to be celebratory though. As annoying as it got there for a while, Pharrell’s “Happy” is an incredible song. He was just creating music for the DESPICABLE ME 2 soundtrack and that monster was born. Born out of a place of positivity and, yeah, happiness. I’d say that song is the template for where I’d like my next step to go.

But I’m going to still keep it real, Mark.

Mark Bousquet: How has being a husband and father affected your creative work?

Kelen Conley: The Mind’s Mixtape volume 4 and SYU were born thanks to my relationship with my wife. I messed up big time a few years ago and one of the reasons I planned on getting out of music was so I could focus more on just being with her. And that was before we got married. So since I decided that, we got engaged, then married, and just had a kid. And I released the best music of my career. I really can’t explain how that worked other than the idea that I was backed into a corner since I planned on never making a song again. But my wife has always been my biggest fan, so she inspires me to get better with everything I do.

Being a father has halted all my creative work because when I’m not at work (like now), I’m with her. And every minute is worth it. I can’t say I felt my life change the first time I held her, but almost five months in…life has definitely changed for the better. The next album might be a bunch of songs about not letting her ever date, who knows?

But I have a feeling next time I go to write a lyric, I’ll have a whole new set of experiences to draw from just from her being born.

Mark Bousquet: Where can people go to learn more about you and SOON YOU’LL UNDERSTAND?

Kelen Conley: BHYPHEN.COM. I have a blog I try to update daily and there’s links to all my music (SYU!), all my writing (Promos By Hyphen!), all my podcasts (they’re all pretty great!), and more. I think there’s enough content over there for the average person to not get bored anytime they visit.

If you do, make sure you check out TricycleOffense.com, where I just reblog 90% of your posts, Mark.

But mostly, just visit BHYPHEN.COM. And follow me on Twitter @bhyphen and on Facebook. Look up Hyphen Nation. I’m that guy.

Mark Bousquet: Thanks for joining me, Kelen!

Kelen Conley: Thanks for having me be the 1 in the number 1 spot for musical artists featured in Atomic Interviews! I’ll stop now.

But I’m beyond thrilled how much you love SYU. Just knowing you enjoy it is the kind of fulfillment I look for when I release music. So thank you sir!


And that’s it for this go-round. Thanks to Kelen for the chat!

And if this wasn’t enough words from me to you, my latest GUNFIGHTER GOTHIC collection, ABSINTHE & STEAM, is out. I’d be much obliged if you gave it a look. Until next time …

Gunfighter Gothic Volume 2: Absinthe & Steam.

22 September 2014

A Rusty Life: Rusty Goes to Jeopardy

So after I showed off Thug's appearance in A Rusty Life, I remembered that I had helped ARL's creator Johnathan Bigelow out with a series of strips he did about the title character, Rusty, going on Jeopardy. Deuce did all the heavy lifting; I just helped out with a few lines here and there and the idea. It's pretty hilarious though.

You can check out Deuce's work on his current comic strip, Stairwell.

20 September 2014

Promos By Hyphen: The WWE Network, The Present & The Future

When Stardust and Goldust became heels a few weeks ago, my opinions on hating that Cody Rhodes had become Stardust did a 180 and I was onboard immediately. I made a mental note to dedicate my next column to THE BALLAD OF CODY RHODES.

18 September 2014

HY Draws!: Some Nonsense on a Calendar

I started drawing a comic strip called Nonsense the first time I worked at Teletech. Teletech is a call center that takes calls from Bank of America customers and when there wasn't calls, I'd try to knock out at least two a day. I have 3 or 4 sketch pads filled with the strips and I even had some of the first ones online at some point.

My coworker is on vacation this week, so I decided her desk calendar was the perfect place for a revival. If I had the time, I wouldn't mind doing a webcomic about them. A rundown of who everyone is:
  • Panel 1: Filton - I created Filton way back in 6th grade for a comic strip I did for the school newspaper. He's the normal talking cat that everything bad happens to.
  • Panel 2: Jake - Jake also debuted with Filton and is (supposedly) his best friend. He's the ridiculous talking cat that everything awesome (usually) happens to.
  • Panel 3: Bizmarkie - Biz may be my earliest original creation. I even stuck a Malcolm X hat on him just to date him a bit. He's the coolest character in the comic strip and he has a lightsaber (or for legal reasons, litesabre).
  • Panel 4: Bravo and Chris - These two are brothers. Bravo eats everything and can only say Bravo while Chris is a nerdy gamer who corrects everyone and nobody likes. Bravo ate Chris once.
  • Panel 5: Stick - Let's cut to the chase, Stick's a crackhead. While he may be the most intelligent cast member of Nonsense, he still smokes crack, so the phrase "you can never trust a crackhead" is thrown about often.
  • Panel 6: Altoid - He's the villain of the comic strip but the worst thing he's done is tell a bad joke. I think he killed the whole cast once though.

Now technically, I forgot 2 (three) cast members. Thug (pictured to the left from his appearance in A Rusty Life), a kid who is your stereotypical drug dealer/bully from the hood, except white. Matt and I once had a whole children's book series planned out for him. There's also Leon, a tall black man with a larger afro who spends most of his time complaining. In Leon's hair, there's Afro Pick, who went on a few adventures himself.

I really need to go back and reread these things.

16 September 2014

If You're Into Podcasts: Michelle Beadle Joins Bill in Studio | The B.S. Report 9/8/14

If You're Into Podcasts: Michelle Beadle Joins Bill in Studio | The B.S. Report 9/8/14

I've been in love with Michelle Beadle since 2009 (2010 at the latest) when I first saw her on SportsNation. I'm sure the feeling is mutual.

Anyway, after I finished last week's Cheap Heat podcast, I listened to my homie Bill Simmons' convo he had with her last week while I did dishes because I'm an awesome multitasker and was (no surprise) super impressed with how it turned out.

So thanks to Beadle, you get a new feature and she gets to grace Hyphen Nation in the style that's appropriate of someone of her stature.

Michelle Beadle Joins Bill in Studio | The B.S. Report 9/8/14

It Came From YouTube: Jhené Aiko: "Behind The Seen" Documentary

I found this excellent mini-documentary chilling on Gambino's site by accident yesterday. 15 minutes well spent. Cop Souled Out on Amazon.

15 September 2014

Undiscovered Country: Childish Gambino - Sober (Rough)

I'm a Childish Gambino fan. I was late to the "Freaks And Geeks" party but was sold by the time "Bonfire" dropped. I loved Camp when it first came out, loved Royalty, and then really liked Because The Internet once I stopped trying to wrap my head around the concept.

Mr. Glover has a new mixtape dropping called STN MTN / KAUAI. Yeah. Hosted by DJ Drama. He dropped this beauty yesterday.

11 September 2014

Robin #6-12 bka the Stephanie Brown Robin Issues

the Stephanie Brown Robin Issues: Stephanie Brown

I have no recollection about why I wanted to share these issues of my 2001-2004 Robin fanfiction. I just last remember listening to the Cheap Heat podcast and thinking this would be a good idea.

So in the first major storyline of the series, Robin (Tim Drake) took on an adversary known as The Student. The Student was revealed to be The Riddler in disguise and after Tim and Nightwing narrowly let Riddler escape, Batman was pissed. He fired Tim as Robin and made The Spoiler (Stephanie Brown) his replacement.

I really want to note that I beat DC to making Stephanie Robin by at least a year and a half. So they stole my idea and didn't give me credit. What can you do?

Here's all of Steph's Robin appearances during the series. Apologies for errors, I wrote these more than 10 years ago, so they're not perfect.

#7 (Written by David Gibson for an event we called Hypertime Month at DCA. I credit this issue for helping me get a feel of Steph's character for the rest of her Robin run.)

I highly recommend issue #10. The fight takes place in the mall and it's pretty awesome. But again, I love everything I do.

10 September 2014

The Eighth SYU Review

The Eighth SYU Review

SYU bassist Kwame Amponsem finally got around to listening to the album and sent me some good feedback vibes.

Soon You'll Understand is available now on iTunes.

Hyphen's Long Travelled Thoughts: Jerry "The King" Lawler & What Wrestling Means To Me

Hyphen's Long Travelled Thoughts: Jerry "The King" Lawler & What Wrestling Means To Me
On this day in 2012, I wrote about Jerry "The King" Lawler after he went into cardiac arrest during a live Raw in Montreal. Thankfully, Jerry made it through, so I'd like to reshare this column.
I write this with the hopes that this doesn’t become a tribute article.

Tonight in Montreal, Quebec, Jerry “The King” Lawler collapsed at ringside during the live broadcast of WWE’s Monday Night Raw. This wasn’t part of a storyline as it normally would be as Lawler was taken to the back and given CPR. He is now at a local hospital where he is breathing on his own as of right now. Michael Cole has addressed the viewers at home and WWE has elected to stop commentary for the night.

King was in a tag team match with Randy Orton, CM Punk, and Dolph Ziggler earlier in the night. Unlike his brutal steel cage match with Punk a few weeks ago, tonight was a relatively easy contest for him, with Orton doing the heavy lifting. However, King still tours the independent circuit when he can despite his WWE obligations. At 62 years old, he takes a risk every time he steps in the ring but one would think his years of experience along with some conditioning would serve him well even in today’s wrestling matches.

Tonight, King proved the one thing that WWE or any wrestling organization/wrestler wants to admit: that they’re human. Wrestlers work ridiculous schedules with very few days off, even for announcers. Lawler is expected to call at least 5 shows a month in different cities around the world all year long; you can only imagine the added strain when WWE asks him to step into the ring.

Michael Cole just came on and said that King is responding to light and is awaiting a CAT scan. These are positive signs and I’m hoping King will pull through this ordeal. Again, I’m praying this doesn’t turn into a memorial article.

But this brings me to my next point: I take a ridiculous amount of shit for watching wrestling. Thomas touched upon this in one of his articles but it’s time for me to really defend my love of professional wrestling.

I know that wrestling is “fake” by most people’s standards. But the thing a lot of people don’t realize is that professional wrestling is an art form to me. Every match has a reasoning, every move is calculated, and at the end of the night the fans go home happy. The wrestlers put their bodies on the line, limp to their mode of transportation after every show, and then do it again the next day or a few days later, EVERY SINGLE WEEK. Just because that punch didn’t connect doesn’t mean that a superplex off the top ropes didn’t forever ruin a spine or a vital leg muscle that won’t work years from now.

These fakes put on a show for television every week. There are no seasons. No year breaks in between storylines (I’m looking at you Breaking Bad). We invite WWE and TNA and ROH into our homes for entertainment. And despite us bitching about storylines not going how we want, and TV-PG versus TV-14, and how shitty Brock Lesnar is, professional wrestling is there. No matter what.

In fact, I’m bitching about how this feud between John Cena and CM Punk going into Night Of Champions hasn’t mattered until the promo they’re in the ring cutting live right now. But it doesn’t matter what I think, it’s all apart of the show WWE is putting on for my entertainment.

Wrestling isn’t for everyone, I know that. But I love the feuds. I love the silly segments. I love watching CM Punk wrestle and/or talk on the microphone. I love watching a good 10 minute match with no title implications. I love hearing Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler on Raw every week no matter what foul shit may come across my Twitter feed. Going to WrestleMania XXVIII this year was a lifelong dream come true for me and it’s something I’ll never forget. Because I love professional wrestling.

When I realized what happened to King tonight, I panicked. My heart was beating out of my chest like one of my own family members had collapsed. But when you welcome someone into your life, even when you don’t actually know the person, you become attached. As the news spread of Jerry’s collapse, #PrayForLawler became a trending topic on Twitter. I obviously wasn’t the only one who felt this way.

A lot of people gave up on WWE and professional wrestling years ago either during or after the Monday Night Wars. I did as well but I always took the time to check in to see what was happening.1 Ironically enough, it was Donald Trump’s 2007 feud with Mr. McMahon that brought me back. It was The Undertaker’s phenomenal performance in the Royal Rumble that same year. It was CM Punk cashing in his Money In The Bank contract on Edge on Raw in 2008. It was meeting Thomas as our mutual fandom of the past led to us watching again. It was buying the Royal Rumble, Elimination Chamber, and WrestleMania PPVs two years in row.2 It was the announcement that The Rock would be returning to the ring to face John Cena in Miami.

I like to think that I was holding out for a better contract.

I’m not that guy to make people fans of professional wrestling. You either get it or you don’t. Anthony claims to this day he doesn’t understand wrestling, despite being exposed to it for at least 3 years at this point. People will still snicker and call it a male soap opera3. People will say it’s all fake and pre-planned and ask what the point is of it all.

I feel the same way about boxing and MMA though. I lose interest in those fights but I can watch a 25 minute pro wrestling match. While I appreciate the art of boxing and MMA, it will never compare to what happens in the wrestling ring for me.

And that’s okay.

After Night Of Champions this Sunday, Thomas and I will record another Slobberknocker and bitch about the results and the writing. I’ll tweet smart ass comments during next week’s Raw. I’m sure The Buzz-Saw and I will clash about everything next time we get together to talk wrestling.

But tonight, I’m scared I’m going to lose a member of my family. I’ve known King for at least 14 years now. I’m not ready to see him go.

Wrestling is a huge part of my 29 year old make-up. And as of now, reports are saying that Jerry Lawler has stabilized. Again, I’m hoping this article doesn’t turn into a tribute. I just want to see King ringside next to Cole again, healthy. And I don’t want to see him in a ring for a very long time. His beatdown by Punk may be his swan song unfortunately.

I’m a professional wrestling fan and I’m not afraid to let anyone know. And tonight, as I watched my Twitter feed and my phone blow up as news about Lawler spread, it reminded me of something I learned in Miami:

Professional wrestling has one of the most passionate and loyal fanbases that I’ve ever seen. And I’m honored to be apart of it. The way everyone rallied around Jerry getting better helped me feel a little better, as I didn’t feel like I was facing this crisis alone. And that’s all one can ask for in troubling times.

“Beat this thing.” Michael Cole couldn’t have chosen better words. And knowing The King, I believe he will.

So I end on this note: I’ll see you back at the announce table soon Jerry. Take care of yourself. And your family misses you.

And even scarier thought for me: I’m gonna be a wreck when Hulk Hogan dies.

  1. I honestly thought it was going to hurt my chances of getting laid in college. In hindsight, it wouldn’t have mattered either way.

  2. This was also due to missing the first Undertaker/Michaels match and hearing everywhere that it was the match of their careers. To this day, I still haven’t watched Taker/Michaels I in its entirety. I can tell you that Thomas and I were depressed after Michaels lost the rematch. I just hope he stays retired.

  3. And I say it’s the best soap opera period. The Daytime Emmys are behind.